A few years later.... I was sick as a dog, sniffling, barely functioning, and I got a call from the Denver World Trade Center. Well, because I did training there, and if there is one person who might be interested in oils, that would be me, the owner of Katari, they thought... They wanted me to meet an Egyptian oil maker named Amr, who made a visit to Denver. I wasn’t excited meeting anyone. I didn’t need anything else. My business was small, and I wanted to keep it simple. I had enough on my plate.